I was going to wait till tomorrow to answer some stuff, but this one won’t wait.
M. writes,
I tried searching your archives to see if you had already addressed this question but didn’t see anything, so forgive me if it’s been asked and answered before.
I think I remember from before that your position on agents is an absolute yes. I’m currently in a position where someone at a big publishing agency is interested in my project and may offer me a contract. I don’t currently have an agent, and I’m concerned that if I reach out to anyone once I have the offer, they’ll take it just because it’s an easy sell with someone already interested. But how do I make sure they’re passionate about the project and not just the sale? I’ve continually heard that it’s nearly impossible just to get an agent to look at your stuff these days, so I’m thinking that without the contract, they’ll skip even trying.
Sorry, I think this may be as much a rant of frustration and confusion as it is a question. Any past experience or advice you might have would be appreciated.
Yes, you still need an agent. Especially now. More so now than before.
But before I get into the details, I strongly urge you to please not sign anything. I’m speaking from experience. Please give me the benefit of a doubt.
You need to do your research and identify your dream agents. More than one, in case the first one doesn’t click. Find agents who represent writers with books similar to your manuscript and carefully look at their client list. Look for bigger names. If in doubt, email one of those bigger names and politely ask if they are happy. Once you determine that the agent is legitimate and appears competent, contact the agent. If you have an offer, tell them. If you have a strong interest from one of the houses, tell them. They will ask for a sample of your work. Agents, even established successful agents, do sign on new clients quite often. If the agency is really successful, it employs junior agents, who are usually looking for clients and who will consult with the senior agent, so you will still get the benefit of their experience.
A good agent doesn’t just make deals. A good agent manages your career, which means they have to genuinely believe in your work. Nancy Yost is our third agent. We had an offer on the table from the publisher, we had hit New York Times, and even so, we had to submit writing samples and have several conversations before everyone decided that we would be a good fit. She was interviewing us while we were interviewing her.
It helps to have realistic expectations: an agent isn’t a therapist, a best friend, an accountant (although an agency should contract with one) or a psychic. An agent is an industry insider who serves as a zealous advocate of your work.
I’ve rambled before in some detail about why having an agent is a must. Even a just-decent legitimate agent is much better than no agent. And if, down the road, it turns out that you just can’t work together, you can fire them. You are allowed. But you need an agent because otherwise you risk signing a contract that will tie your hands to your feet.
So no, my position on agents is still unchanged. Here is why the new publishing model makes employing an agent even more of a necessity. Let me be completely blunt: the business of commercial fiction has drastically changed in the past five years. Previously the Big Six Publishing Houses (Hachette , Macmillan, Penguin Group, HarperCollins, Random House and Simon & Schuster) were the primary providers of commercial fiction. The independent smaller publishers always existed, but they provided an interesting alternative to mainstream rather than real competition. The Big Six mostly competed with each other. So if Author A’s book came out, it would compete mostly against books from other publishing houses. There was a certain commonality between contracts from different publishing houses and being with a publishing house was one’s only way to reach the readers.
That train has sailed. We now have a state of upheaval in the publishing industry. Russians in the region where I was born have an excellent word for it: kavardak. All ahs, rhymes with duck. It means a chaotic, frantic, disastrous mess. The rise of ebooks created an extremely robust independent publishing marketplace and it changed the rules of the game.
1) Fiction is now cheap. (I didn’t say cheap fiction is always good. As with any unregulated marketplace, the quality of goods offered varies drastically. But this is a different conversation.)
What does it mean for you as a writer: when Amazon rolled out its alternative to Netflix, I read up on some interesting research connected to it, and of course, I can’t find it now, so I’ll summarize. Let’s say a person is in the mood to watch a specific type of movie, horror, for example. If you give that person a limited selection, they will make the selection work for them. If there are no good horror movies available, they will watch a bad horror movie, despite the negative ratings, because they already made a decision to watch a horror flick.
Let’s say you wrote a vampire book. That means that when a reader logs on to his favorite retailer’s site looking for a vampire ebook, he will see your book for $7.99 and many, many other vampire ebooks for $2.99 each. Whether those books are good or bad – and they might be stellar or horrible – this reader is going to get himself a vampire book to read, and you are at a disadvantage because your book costs more than twice as much. Your competition is now not just the other traditionally published writers, but the latest $.99 release from a fan favorite independent author.
As an author, you now need to be asking your publisher specific questions that authors didn’t have to worry about before. What is the price point of my book? Will my book be discounted? Will I get special promotion from e-retailers?
Even more specific: your publisher wants to sign an exclusive promotion with one retailer, making your book available for one month only at that retailer, before everyone else gets it. Is this a good idea? Why is this not a good idea? How will you express to the publisher that this is not a good idea without coming off as a complete ingrate? They took a chance on your book, they paid you money for it, and you love your editor. Don’t you know how lucky you are to be published? (When you spend a little bit of time in the industry, this mindset will go away as we all eventually realize that this is a business.)
A good agent is the person who will a) know why this or that strategy is a bad idea and b) has no problems with stepping up and being a savage bitch about it in a very polite manner.
But won’t the publisher know what’s the best strategy? No. They will not. They are large corporations with a lot of inertia. They will trial and error things for years before their experiments become a policy. Sometimes these policies are dictated from above in opposition to the editors’ suggestions. The markets are changing very fast.
But isn’t the publisher acting in my best interests? No. The publishers are not evil, no matter how much some of the more vehement opponents of the traditional publishing will try to convince you. But publishing is a business. Publishers act in THEIR own best interests. Your agent acts in your best interests.
Ace is a fair publisher, but they’ve come with some odd ideas over the years, and when you’re overworked and trying to get things in and feeling guilty because you are now two days late, you sometimes say yes. I said yes. And then I got an email from the agent who says, “This is not a good idea. Perhaps we could reconsider?” Which forced me to stop and think for a second, and my reply said, “What the hell was I thinking? This is a terrible idea!”
Our agent is CC’ed on almost every email to our editor. We do this, because she saves our butts.
2) Fiction is now plentiful, because publishing is easy.
The independent electronic marketplace increased the number of authors by a huge margin. Suppose you are published and your book does well. Not even super great, but well. Now you have a check mark by your name. You have a proven audience. When a reader familiar with your work sees your name among all other names, you stand out. Curiously that gives you a little bit more leverage than before. Your agent might get you better terms based on this leverage. You could also self-publish to supplement your income. The question is where and at what price? Can you even contractually self-publish or did you sign a contract that says the publisher owns any work under your pen name?
Example: UK wants to buy rights, but only e-rights, and they will only give you 15% from the royalties they get and a $1,000 advance. Is this a good deal? Are you at the stage of your career where you can earn more on your own with a 30% royalty off the cover price or is there enough support in the UK publishing house to be of benefit to you?
Again, a good agent will know this and will steer you the right way.
3) Publishing will drive you even more crazy.
Publishing always made people neurotic, but now even more so. Things are constantly changing. Publishers are merging. People are fired. Ebook prices are fluctuating, Amazon is making its own money. BN is making scary noises about stores closing. Amazon filed a patent to resell used books. I’m pretty much in the middle of it, and I try to pay attention, but it gets to be too much and I might know maybe 30% of the important news our agent knows. Probably not even that much.
In conclusion:
- You will come to either love or, most likely, loathe your publisher’s publicity department.
- You will hit your head against the wall and moan, “But why? Why??? It makes no sense?” when your publisher blatantly ignores reality in favor of some silliness.
- You will become enraged over stupid petty crap that nobody really cares about.
- You will panic and develop irrational fear about changes in the industry.
- If you are really anal, you will get a spreadsheet in which you will note your royalties, sales and promo and then you will gnash your teeth about it.
In other words, you will go a little crazy. Crazy people need someone sane in their corner. Just saying.









I read this, and just wanted to say thanks for putting this out. Also, the business side of writing is incredibly confusing. Writers/Authors aren’t just writing a novel anymore (were they ever?). They are building relationships with readers. They are blogging and tweeting, and building their business/product/name. Then there are agents, and editors, and publishing companies, and on and on and on, and that all has to be figured into the equation as well. So how much is spent writing, and how much is actually spent dealing with the “business?”
thank you for posting this, I take away some good calming advise to my completely unrelated field – architects, who work for large corporate entity. I always find that I could learn to be more eloquent from reading your blog.
Thanks for taking time out of your week off to answer this question for M.. Whoever that is.
The whole issue of reversion rights is suddenly even more important with the advent of ebooks. What publishers would LOVE is to have rights forever as ebooks sell. What authors NEED is a very clear threshold of sales or limit of some sort so that they can get the rights back and make money off ebook sales directly (with a percent to the distributor of course). You’ll want someone very savvy when it comes to reversion rights. Book contracts vary widely now with all of these changes.
What Ilona said, in triplicate.
Oh, lord, YES, you need an agent. And don’t rush into a contract. There are so many things you have to work through (foreign translation rights, movie rights, non-compete clause, etc.) you need someone in your corner. My first three contracts with my US publisher were 16 pages in length. The last one was 32 pages with only slighter bigger type. There’s a LOT of alligators in that fine print and every one of them will bite you in the butt if you don’t have a savvy agent in your corner.
And as Ilona wisely points out:
“3) Publishing will drive you even more crazy.”
Can I get an rousing “Amen!”?
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I love knowing how things work behind the scenes. This was an incredibly informative discourse on the perils and pitfalls of an individual interacting on their behalf with a corporation that has its bottom line in mind. It won’t likely ever be relevant to my career (I work for the US govt), but it was fascinating to get a little window into decisions that need to be made and what kind of thought is needed behind them. Thanks!
Just read the part about the spreadsheets and gnashing of teeth. Not that I’ve ever done that or anything (closes Excel on computer).
Damn, I’ve been caught.
Hehehe!
But I like spreadsheets!
Sort of. Then again, I’m a geek, and the only real problems I’ve ever had with them are because my computer is dying, rather than a problem with the spreadsheet.
Spreadsheets are evil!
I have a spreadsheet that keeps track of my mom’s budget plans. I’m supposed to update it at least once a week. I don’t think I have opened it once in 4 months. Shh!! Don’t tell my mom!
It’s not procrastinating if nobody calls you on it.
Well, that’s what we’d like to think at any rate.
I love Excel :::ducking:::
Good answer.
So what you’re saying is I totally need a mom… I mean other than my own mom, if I were to need an agent!
I kid, but the savage/polite thing just threw me back to middle school and my mother verbally flaying an abusive teacher with the politest voice ever. Amazing moment.
Reminds me of the scene in Kate 3 where Andrea is describing to Kate the chewing out Curran gave everyone when he showed up at the Midnight Games, specifically when she said “They had no asses left.”
P. S. Spellcheck wants me to change Curran to Currant, which is almost the exact opposite of Curran. I’m not quite sure how mind you, but it is.
This was such a good article I learned so much some of which I suspected all along.
I am a first time writer and do not have an agent reason being, a first book published does not an author make. There is so much to learn about the business and what I’ve been told from well known authors basically is that they had to learn the hard way and so will I.
I hate spreadsheets too and Math was never my strong-suit. This may seem like a stupid question but ass u m ing I sell books how do I know for sure that my publisher is giving me my fair share?
I went with a vanity publisher because quite frankly I couldn’t wait around to change my format everytime I submitted it to another publisher. I wanted it published before I die. (sort of sarcastic)
It was a great article and I will save it and re-read it before talking to my publisher again wondering where my free books are.
From the article: “Amazon filed a patent to resell used books.”
Forgive me for being ignorant (I don’t know much about publishing), but don’t they already do that? Am I missing something? Why would this negatively impact authors? :/
p.s. Great and enlightening article! Thank you for taking time to write this article. Can’t wait till MAGIC RISES.
I think the patent is about selling used e-books. Which is definitely not being done by anyone just yet.
Ah, that makes a lot of sense!
Thanks!
Nice Gravatar, Angela. Where did you get the photo?
Reminds me of how Jules Verne really needed an agent and never seemed to read his contract. And so, due to this small issue, he was stuck writing 1-2 books a year for about ~40 years although I think he re-did his contract a few times in, I want to say 3-5 book increments. It has been awhile since I saw it. Most of them I would not recommend. Any time I see something about him doing his writing he is always depicted as under pressure to get it done yesterday. I should also note that a number of his books are not short.
Triplicate I think is not enough. The US customs agents ask for it in Quintuplicate. (When shipping packages over seas)
Excellent Article. I myself am worried about where bound books will end up in the next 30-50 years. Which is why I end up collecting anything pre 1970 that interests me. Technology, novels, engineering and construction.
I don’t write. Just not in me. But, I appreciate reading your very thorough, informative answer. It was interesting. And, it makes me glad, once again, that I am a reader, not a writer.
“You need to do your research and identify your dream agents. More than one, in case the first one doesn’t click. Find agents who represent writers with books similar to your manuscript and carefully look at their client list.”
Is there a Yelp of literary agents?
Also, thanks again for the amazing insight into your work and the inner workings of the publishing industry! It’s always insightful and fun to read these posts.
Thanks for posting this – i don’t know much about the publishing industry and the information that I usually read about just makes me shake my head and wonder why they insist on acting like dinosaurs!! didn’t they see what happened to the music industry? When was the last time you actually bought a physical CD or went to a store like Tower Records! Sorry about the rant
Anyway it is so interesting to learn about it from your perspective and at least get a glimpse into how the business side of the books i love to read operates!
I wish I were a writer so I could benefit from Ilona’s generous and excellent advice!
Anyone can be a writer. You just start writing and see where it takes you.
I write poetry. I just can’t do dialog. Yet. But I am working on it. I was always better at describing a scene in detail.
I hate spreadsheets – but I am doing the spreadsheet thing. I have lists for publishers and editors I like or am subbing to and what their response is and when that happened.
Am I on the crazy train already?
I haven’t even tried to get an agent because everyone says they’re like rocking-horse poo (ie rare) and it’s easier to get published than get an agent. But now I’m skkkkkerd O_o
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I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone mention rocking horse poo before. Reminds me of a scene in a book I read a long time ago where they needed powdered hen’s teeth for a spell.
I was being nice, it’s usually the s*** word
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Thanks for this look behind the scenes. Such information always fascinates me.
But I admit to being shocked to learn that agents are not psychic. Not even the best ones?
This is such an excellent post! I love the way it’s absolutely blunt, with a lot of the things I think people forget – especially when they’re first trying to get published. I’m not even trying to get published (yet) and I found this incredibly helpful and informative.
I in no way need advice on writer/publishing questions, I am a reader only. But, I always enjoy reading your clear headed author-type advice. You make even business oriented information fun. Impressive.
I couldn’t agree more about the value added by an agent. I just posted a somewhat more lighthearted article on my own blog today singing the very real praises of my own agent…
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