Gender in YA Books

@ilona_andrews A friend shared this article & as authors w/ strong heroines, I wondered what you would think of it?

The article in question is The Legacy of Katniss, or, Why We Should Stop ‘Protecting’ Manhood and Teach Boys to Embrace the Heroine.

Brooke also tweeted:

@natasha_lh@justinemusk I shared the article w/ @LKHamilton and@ilona_andrews bc they are two of my fave authors who write strong heroines

I don’t appreciate being put on the spot, because if you ask me something like this, I will answer and that won’t earn me many friends.

This is a giant, giant can of multicolored worms, and I am on a deadline, so I will touch on it only briefly.  First of all, saying “strong heroine” is like saying “a free gift.”  It’s redundant.  Being heroic, by definition, is possessing some strength, most of the time, strength of moral conviction that culminates in you placing yourself in a harm’s way to protect others. Firefighters are heroes.  Soldiers are heroes.  Heroes are people who have the moral strength to risk or sacrifice themselves for the good of others. It is a gender-neutral occupation.

Heroes can be weak in body, but never in spirit.  Otherwise our story ends up being, “He was weak and selfish.  The end.”

When we wrote Kate Daniels, I personally didn’t set out to write “a strong woman.”  I set out to write a woman whose humanity endures despite her upbringing. With that in mind, let’s try to look at the different worms.

Men and Women Are Different.  If a woman comes up to me and says, “I’m a feminist, and men and women are the same,” I will tune out whatever else she has to say, because she is the exact opposite of being a feminist. Being a feminist is understanding the differences between men and women and effectively demonstrating that while differences exist, they shouldn’t dictate unequal treatment.

Women, on average, are physically weaker. We have smaller size, lower bone mass, and less upper body strength.  We can compensate for this by training, but we have to work harder than men at achieving the same level of strength. This is a fact.

Men, on average, have higher levels of testosterone.  They have greater bone mass. They have greater muscle mass.  Some people also attribute increased levels of aggression to testosterone, but I don’t believe a definitive link has been established. We do know that testosterone affects the risk taking level and women are generally more averse to risk.  Actually, we didn’t need a study for this.  We could just watch World’s Dumbest Daredevils or Most Shocking on TruTV.  Ninety nine percent of these clips resulting in bodily harm feature men.  Men do things like hit each other in the balls, because they think it’s funny.  Can you picture a group of girls punching each other’s breasts and laughing?   No, because it hurts.

“Hey, Jane, how about you take off your pants and we’ll stick this firecracker up your butt and light it on fire?”

“What are you, crazy?”

“Hey John, how about that firecracker?”

I think we can agree physical differences between men and women exist. Some people link it to evolutionary adaptations.  An early male had to take a lot of risk.  Here is a sharpened stick.  Go poke that mammoth with it.  That’s a hell of a risk right there, but somebody had to bring home the mammoth. I’m not super sold on it.  The truth is, we don’t quite know why testosterone makes men more reckless.

Society views men and women as different based on their physical differences. When I was a child, I read a nursery rhyme in a Russian book.  I was probably seven or so, but it’s stuck in my head because it defined the world.  It had a picture of a family on the beach, with muscular dad, a mom in a bikini and two kids.  The rhyme said:

The sky is blue

The sea is blue

Dad is strong

Mom is pretty.

 That’s the social gender gap in a nutshell.  Men are supposed to be strong, women are supposed to be beautiful. Look at the commercials.  Men get a “Gain muscle, don’t be a weakling” while women get “Lose weight and paint yourself pretty.”  God help you, if you are male and not athletic or female and not beautiful.

The reason why the article affected me so deeply was because even at that age I knew I wasn’t primarily strong or pretty. I was smart.  Where the heck do I fit into this family? We’ll come back to this in a minute.

As a society, we extend the physical differences onto how we treat children.  In Western society, men are historically the dominant gender.  If one analyses this in terms of class-based society structure (USSR education paying off), you can clearly see the dividing lines.  The classist theory says that while all class lines are defended, reaching from lower class to higher class is viewed as a lesser wrong.  For example, if a girl dresses as a boy, she is imitating men, she’s a tomboy, and it’s cute.  If a boy dresses as a girl, it is unacceptable, freaky, and weird.  The girl takes a step up, while the boy takes a step down.  The dominant societal class must maintain power at all costs. Any downward movement is the surrender of that power.

Women dressed in male clothes are sexy.  Men dressed in women clothing are drag queens. A comic featuring scantily clad female superheroes is not lesbian, it appeals to men.  A comic featuring scantily clad men is “subtly homoerotic,” because the assumption is only the male audience matters.  Women couldn’t possibly be interested in seeing scantily clad men.

Men are the dominant class, so men are supposed to be providers.  It’s a double-edged sword. We, as a society, place crushing burdens on our men and sometimes they fold under pressure and we end up with family annihilators.

Suppose you have a daughter, a sister, or a female friend and she brings her new boyfriend to meet you. You ask him what he plans to do for his living and he says, “I’m planning on finishing high school and then I really just want to be a father.  I’d like to be a stay at home dad and putter around.”

OMG, he is some kind of deadbeat.

Suppose it’s a male friend and his girlfriend tells you she wants to be a mother and a homemaker.  You may think it’s kind of lame, but most people will likely not think less of her for it.  And if you attack her or criticize her on that choice, there will be people who will have a knee jerk reaction to defend her.  ”Don’t you dare criticize her choice.  Being stay-at-home mom is hard.”  So is being a stay-at-home dad!  If your daughter wants to be a stay-at-home mom and her boyfriend wants to be a stay-at-home dad, how are they going to feed themselves?  Why is it the boy who automatically faces the burden of providing for the family?  Is it because the girl is less capable?  Is she weaker?

And this is the root of the problem.  As long as we tell girls that low expectations are okay, there is no hope of a true equality.  None. If my daughters ever date a girl, I expect her to tell me she wants to be a nurse, an astronaut, a teacher, something.  I want her to be confident and to have aspirations. There will always be time to stay at home and be a mother, but I hope that at first she has dreams and ambitions. I want her to find something she loves to do and explore it. I want her to be a strong partner for my child.

Just to be clear, before I’m flooded with hate: staying with kids is a perfectly valid, viable choice. I’ve done it and I was a stay at home mom until the kids went to school full time. Our daycare would’ve cost more than what I would’ve earned.  But it should be a choice each family makes for themselves and we, as a society, shouldn’t tell boys that they are less male because of it or make the girls feel guilty if they choose to have a career instead.

How does all this relate to YA books?

Remember how I said that smart didn’t fit into the nursery rhyme?  It’s because smart is gender-neutral. Kind is also gender-neutral.  Being a good friend.  Being disciplined.  Doing the right thing when it’s difficult, especially when it’s difficult.  Having honor and integrity.  Those are not the functions of our gender.  Those are the functions of our humanity.

So if you want boys to read books with female YA protagonists, stop making getting the boy the point of the book.

But Hunger Games!

Yes.  It was brilliant. My kids loved it.  What else you’ve got?

By the way, look at the Hunger Games.  Look at what happens in the Capital.  Katniss is not presented as a warrior to the capital.  They present her as a girl and they ask her if there is a special someone. To make her popular, they have to clean the viciousness off and make her more feminine.  That’s when the crowd gets fired up – when they know there is a romance.  Presence of a boy in her life gives Katniss value in their eyes.  It is an exceptionally astute criticism of gender roles.

My girls read Lightning Thief and Harry Potter, not because the protagonists are men but because these books have adventure.  They have danger, plot, turns and twists, they have conflict, and they deal with betrayal and love and coming into conflict with adult world.

But girls like to read about romance?

Great.  And there are tons of YA books that are about romance and there should be.  Some books are meant for a primarily female audience just as some books are aimed at a primarily male audience.  But if you are trying to appeal to both, you must accept that women and men view romance from different angles. Boys and girls both fall in love and do desperate things.  Romance is exciting and it should be in YA books, because first love is a part of  adolescence.  But if you want your YA books to have cross-gender appeal, make your books to be more than an exploration of being a girl in love.  Make it an exploration of being a human being. You would get more girl readers that way anyway.

 

Comments

  1. Brittany M. says:

    Total amen.

  2. Thanks for the great picture. Not sure what the rest of the article was about.

  3. This is why I visit your web site everyday. I like what you have to say, and I enjoy listening to your logic. Too many people have strong opinions on what is right or proper, but not enough people give serious thought about why that is. Thank you for once again posting a thought provoking issue.

  4. Every time this discussion comes up I hang my head in shame. I was one of those kids who would only read books with protagonists of the same gender – from the age of 9 to 15 I only read books with female heroines. I refused to read a book where the main character was a boy, because they were all about “being reckless and doing things their mother’s wouldn’t approve of.” I loved adventure (and sci-fi and fantasy) but that wasn’t my kind of adventure. My kind of adventure was fighting for a cause, not rebelling because your mother told you to paint a fence. And in my very young mind, and with my very little experience of “boy’s books” I blocked out the entire gender from my bookshelf.

    All I can say, when it comes to gender in YA books, is that I would like boys and girls not to care about gender, and to focus on the stories. I know that’s not what I did as a kid, and therefore I feel a bit hypocritical and judgmental whenever I say it, but placing people (protagonists) in a box based on gender is not a good mindset.

  5. Here, here!

  6. HappyReader says:

    I found myself nodding as I read. “I will touch on it only briefly.” LOL! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

  7. First. I almost had to reread the post. I spent so much time drooling over the picture I nearly forgot what the post was about. ;)

    Second. “Must make Kate and Hugh fight.” Gah!! Now I really can’t wait for the next release! :)

  8. First off I want to say I totally agree, but an interesting note about testosterone and aggression that I read in a science magazine (I’m trying to remember the name of it. It was just on the rack in Kroger):

    The researchers showed close cropped photos of male and female faces with neutral expressions to a study group. The study group was apparently able to distinguish, within a matter of seconds, which of the men shown was aggressive (this was also the case for promiscuity and homosexuality). This apparently has something to do with the WHR or width to height ratio of the male face. The higher the ratio, the more aggressive (and deceptive) the man. WHR is supposed to be determined by the amount of testosterone in the male during puberty. This did not hold true with the faces of women.

    The whole article was very interesting. It discussed how women with more estrogen influenced faces (fuller lips, arching brows, small chin, etc.) and men with high testosterone faces (strong jaw, etc.) were seen as more attractive and promiscuous. The more attractive the individual, the more they were viewed in a positive light by society in regards to their characters as well. So we, as humans, are more likely to believe an attractive person is a good person.

    I found it interesting anyway. Now I just wish I could remember the name of the magazine.

    • I may have mixed a couple of the studies up, but I to remember one directly correlating testosterone levels at puperty to aggression.

  9. Margaretlee says:

    I thought your response was brilliant. Just an FYI, I adore Steel’s Edge.

  10. Pfefferminztee says:

    I agree with you on every level, although I could have never said it that eloquently myself. Thank you for this comment!
    (there is a genetic mutation in which the person concerned has one X and two Y chromosomes. These persons are always male and are known for they tendencies to aggression and criminality. To blame this behavior solely on testosterone levels seems to be a little too easy, although that probably may play an important role in this. But I think there must be some other genetic factors, too.)

  11. I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, though I’m among the majority-subset of autistics whose romantic reactions, communication, etc. are what’s expected of the opposite gender. :)

    I haven’t read Hunger Games, but most of the books with female heroes by these writers don’t have romance as a goal or involve taming the girl, and most take the opposite route by un-taming her:
    Diana Wynne Jones (she gave an interesting [transcribed] lecture on the topic, in fact)
    Robin McKinley
    Anne McCaffrey
    Mercedes Lackey
    Kristen Britain
    Tamora Pierce
    Madeline L’Engle
    Diane Duane

  12. Heh. Kinda figured Hugh would be the antagonist. One of the things I liked about the Circle series. 4 protagonists, 1 is male, different walks of life.

  13. “Men and Women Are Different.”
    Oh, no. You have brought facts to an emotional argument. Beware of the storm coming your way.

  14. hahaha, i always have so much fun reading the random stuff you post!!

    though i do totally agree with this – im a female and i hate reading romances 99.9% of the time, kick butt action is always way more fun :D

  15. Wow thank you for actually writing an informed opinion … I totally agree equality is not a tick box issue and recognising differences does NOT does not mean unequal. We should have neither a patriarchal or martricarchal society but first we have to deal with the inherent cultural, historical and societal norms that reinforce inequality between the sexes.

  16. This pretty much nails it…

    But if you are trying to appeal to both, you must accept that women and men view romance from different angles.
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  17. I like what you had to say about society’s reaction of the dads staying home with the children as I experienced it first hand. My parents made a vow when they married to always have one parent home when the children were. When we moved to Alaska it was my dad who had to fulfill that role since women, due to quota rules and their scarcity, are hired more frequently and paid better than men for the same job. We received scathing letters every year from relatives that didn’t understand that dad being home didn’t mean he wasn’t working. Living in the middle of the wilderness with no electricity or running water meant tons of work. He always took his two little girls with him. We learned to work beside him doing manly chores like cutting 30 cords of wood for the winter, hunting, and trapping, or the more womanly chores of gardening, canning, and foraging. The thing is my sister and I never realized that these chores were supposed to be divided by gender. When we moved back to the lower 48 in my early teens, due to my mother’s health, we went through culture shock when faced with how every form of society here was so deeply stereotyped.

    If I had one wish, it would be that more people could grow up realizing that just because they are a certain gender doesn’t mean they have to box themselves into a certain role. This for me is the appeal of Kate. She takes what she has and works with it as she can, to accomplish what she must, without sacrificing her humanity along the way. This is the hallmark of a great hero, gender be damned.

  18. Laurie Kozlowski says:

    Hello there! This is my first time reading this blog and it was very insightful. I would like to say as a stay at home Mom and having had a career in optics I have found that being a SAHM is much like anything else in life. It is what you make it. Other than just being a viable option I do not know how many days I have with my daughter and enjoy cherishing every moment with her. No one knows what tomorrow may bring and make the most of each moment.

  19. Christina D. says:

    I also feel the need for more heroic female leads. Actually they are the original reason I started reading sci fi and urban fantasy – the chicks kicked ass!
    Now I read it because I like the genre. :P

  20. This reminded me of an interview J.K. Rowling did a loooong long time ago, around book 3. Some “feminist” (self-described, of course) complained to her that her books didn’t have strong female characters. I do believe her reaction was something like: O_o huh?

    That type of person is an example of why I never call myself a feminist. The term carries connotations the worldview does not.

  21. your kids might like Lili St Crow’s “strange angel” series. 5 books I loved it. and it is considred YA

  22. Clinton Lewis says:

    I though this was great. Thank you for taking the time to write it.

  23. Ilona, I have to say that every time I read your blog, especially when you’re discussing things of this nature, I’m floored by…well, everything!

    As I was reading this I kept saying wow. I agree with you 100%. I have 2 nephews. My mom will never have a granddaughter because I refuse to have children and my brother isn’t having anymore. When my first nephew was born, all I heard was “Well, he’s going to be a boy’s boy” and all of the other male-oriented nonsense you hear. Heaven forbid either one of them be caught playing with dolls.

    I don’t understand why our society feels the need to smack you in the face with gender differences or what’s to be expected of said gender. It seems that if that person is a good person, it shouldn’t matter if they’re a male who wants to be a fashion designer or a woman who wants to be a sharpshooter. It’s ridiculous really.

    And I hope this doesn’t come across as rambling. Sometimes I have difficulties expressing myself when I believe so strongly in what I’m trying to articulate. :D

  24. But if you are trying to appeal to both, you must accept that women and men view romance from different angles.
    Amen to that.

    The problem I find with YA is that with a lot of them it is a romance dressed up in wings and vampire teeth. It is so hard to find one that the romance comes second.

  25. Trish Henry says:

    Amen sister!

  26. Superbly rendered! Thank you for some very outstanding points (which some peeps will always ignore)!

    I suppose it’s an ingrained social training which makes girls women and boys men. Until there is total acceptance that some people can be different (in whatever way) AND that there’s NO stigma attached to that difference, then we will always have this problem. Open-mindedness is a rare commodity :D

  27. A perfect response! As a feminist and an avid speculative fiction and romance reader, I definitely note gender issues. I discuss these issues in my classes – especially my Psychology of Women class. One paper option is for my students to watch children’s cartoons and count the number of boys and girls, assess their speaking roles, and what it is they do in the cartoon. They can do the same with children’s literature. Or they can go to a toy store and examine the toys for gender stereotypes (or none, usually in the infant category). My students are astonished at the extent of negative gender stereotyping. I try to focus them on noting the things we take for granted and never question. I also try to emphasize that it’s okay if/that boys and girls/men and women are different (because they are), but the problem arises when these differences are also differentially valued. And then you add class, race, sexual orientation, etc. into the mix and you’ve got a nice discussion going.

    Thanks for giving me yet another reason to say you guys are my favorite author!

  28. You rock and this is why I enjoy your books so much. I grew up in the 60′s and my first female role model – Emma Peel of the Avengers British TV show. I wanted to drive fast sports cars and kick bad guys butts. I saw no reason why being a girl should stop me from doing anything I wanted. I never did get to be an action heroine, but I married a great guy, raised 2 great kids, one of whom has the right combo of brains, confidence and ambition to take on anything. She’s far more fearless than I ever was and I admire her and the other young women like her because they get it. Feminism is all about being who you really want to be deep down, whether it’s a full-time mom, a 4 star general, or anything in between. And a man who doesn’t possess at least a bit of a feminine side is not going to be easy to live with in the long term.

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