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I’d love to know what you got in the comments.
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R writes:
I had a question about word counts. I’m trying to figure out what the proper format for a manuscript is and came across a snag. What would you consider to be an average word count for your books or at least a word count for a new author? The story I’m working on already hit 150,000 and it’s not even done, but I heard that if it’s too long then some editors automatically reject it.
Editors don’t typically automatically reject things on the basis of length alone. Most often they reject them because writing isn’t quite there, or their line-up already has something similar, or the novel doesn’t fit with what they already publish.
A typical length for a UF is around 90,000-100,000 words. It used to be typographic word count, but now more and more people just go with MS Word’s word count.
Unfortunately, 150,000 is what’s colloquially known among writers as BFB – Big F-ing Brick. There are genres in which such length is acceptable. Epic fantasies, for example, tend to be long. Historic fiction, also – you could kill someone with an early Sharon K. Penman’s book. But if you’re writing a UF, a paranormal, a contemporary fantasy, ora mystery, you have to prepare yourself to make some sacrifices. You may be asked to split the novel in two. You may be asked to cut. Gordon and I had to chop off a quarter of the MAGIC BITES to make it fit into 90,000 limit. It took hitting some bestseller lists before the word limit was relaxed. That’s the good thing about having a little bit of sales – you get more leeway.
The question to ask yourself is , why is your book so long? Are you meandering? Is there a ten day trip in there that can be summarized in two sentences? Do people have terribly important debates that add nothing to the plot? Are you in love with a page-long description of an abandoned movie theater?
My advice would be to take a good hard look at the narrative and cut the fat. Give your novel to someone who doesn’t feel obligated to pet you on the head. Is he bored reading it? Cut the boring parts.
But, if you are completely and definitely sure that your work must remain at the current length, then write the best query letter you can write and make sure your first chapter would knock the editor’s socks off. They will take it from there.
M writes
I’m curious about how drafts work when you’re published. I know when you’re unpublished, the general rule of thumb is 3+ drafts before subbing it out. How many drafts do you guys generally go through before you hand the manuscript in? Also, do you do a lot of editing while you write or do you wait to make changes and corrections to the story during copy-edits?
As many as it takes.
The point of redrafting is to produce the best book possible. If there is some kind of rule out there that tells you to rewrite an arbitrary number of times, that rule is stupid and should be kicked to the curb. I’d like to meet the person who came up with that nonsense and pop him upside the head for driving future writers crazy.
The number of drafts doesn’t matter. Only the end product does. Some books take one draft, some take eight.
We do edit as we write. Most of the editing comes in the form of adjusting the narrative. For example, we have an exploding corpse in Kate 5. Gordon and I wrote the scene, but it felt off. The scene would be better set during magic instead of tech, because magic would let us get creepier. But as it was, the scene couldn’t have magic because magic fell that morning. It took me a whole weekend to realize that I must split the scene off and move it to next day. As a result, I had to go back, rename Chapter 4 as Chapter 5, move the front scene to the end of Chapter 3 and write an entirely new Chapter 4.
That’s normal, just as the cleaning as you go along is normal. I type with my key board in my lap because regular chairs kill my back and I typo a lot as I write. (I do wish Liquid Binder would run the spellcheck all the time, but they don’t. If I find software that let me do the same file management as the Binder but runs the spellcheck, I will pounce on it.) I usually go back and clean what I wrote every day or two. Plus, Gordon cleans it in rewrites.
To reiterate, focus on the book, not the rewrites.
A. asks
Is Declan in the second book at all?
For a short while. Since apparently we all are okay with the snippets, here you go:
“Wow.” Gaston gaped at the two story mansion, situated on a perfectly manicured lawn. “Wow. Is that all one house?”
William grumbled. Gaston never set foot out of the swamp. The entire way through the Broken and the Weird, the kid would stare at things in amazement, get embarrassed, and then try to be smart ass about it. It was getting old.
“Who lives here?”
“Earl Declan Camarine, Marshal of the Southern Provinces.”
“Are we going to get arrested?”
“No.”
“Are you sure?”
William growled at him.
A window on the second floor burst in an explosion of glittering shards. A body hurled through it and a boy dropped into a half-crouch onto the balcony rail, his crazy brown hair standing straight up like hackles on a pissed off cat. Wild yellow eyes stared at William from a narrow face. The kid looked at least eight inches taller than he remembered.
“Jack!” Rose’s voice called.
Jack’s eyes flared with feral fire. He hissed and leaped off the balcony, changing in mid-jump, shredding his clothes. A spotted adolescent lynx landed into the green grass and took off at a dead run, heading toward the trees.
Wouldn’t be able to pull it off in the Edge, William reflected. In the Edge, changing shapes took time, but in the Weird with magic full force, you could go furry with no pain on the fly.
“Jack!” Rose ran out onto the balcony. She wore a peach colored gown and her hair was up. “Jack, wait! Damn it.”
She saw them below. Her eyes widened.
“I’m here to see Declan,” William told her.
Two minutes later he sat in Declan’s study. He’d left Gaston with Rose who took him to the kitchen. The kid ate like a horse.
Declan looked at him from behind the desk. He hadn’t changed a bit: same hard eyes, same blond hair. Except he was growing it out again. He grew it long every few years to use as a power resource in case he had sacrifice a part of himself to magic.
Declan surveyed him. “Doing well?”
“Yeah.”
“Looking kind of thin there. My mother’s always looking for a new diet. Maybe you can share some tips?”
William bared his teeth. “Yeah. Shouldn’t you be all fat by now? Is that some flab on your sides?”
“Fuck you.”
They looked at each other.
“Two fucking years.” Declan spread his hands. “You were gone for two fucking years. So. What can the office of Marshall do for you?”
William unclenched his teeth. It killed him to say it. “I need help.”
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It’s raining again. What a surprise. I think I might faint from this surprise. It’s not enough that we have four inch deep lake on our lawn, oh nooo, no, we need more rain.
It has come to my attention that tiny snippets of Kate 5 are driving people nuts. I’m sorry about that. Driving nuts wasn’t my intention. I’m just working on the manuscript and I blog about what I work.
So. We can declare a moratorium on Kate topics for a couple of months.
What would you guys like to talk about? I still have some questions about the publishing and writing you guys left me, but I figured you were probably a bit sick of me talking shop.
I also tried to get Mark Del Franco to come over and talk about his book, but he won’t return my emails. HI MARK! If you’re reading this, come over to talk about your book!
So any particular topics you guys want to explore? Do you want to have some light fiction running in small chunks on the blog? Do you want to rid more about knitting? (That sounded vaguely as a threat, hehehe.) All suggestions are welcome.
The neighbors, the ones who recently moved here from Atlanta, have finally brought in their pit bull.
My morning went like this:
Pit: New place new place new place. I am tough! I am so tough! I’m the king of the new place.
Luka: Dog! Dog next door! Hey did you know there was a dog next door?
Pit: Aaaaaaaah!!! There are dogs next door!
Luka: Dog, hey dog, can you hear me? I can hear you!
Del: Omg Omg, so exciting :run in a circle:
Pit, freaking out: There are DOGS next door! You don’t want any of this, dogs!
Me: Would all of you just shut up? You two, come inside right now.
An hour later, after feedings:
Pit: New place new place new place. I am tough! I am so tough! I’m the king of the new place.
Luka: Dog! Dog next door! Hey did you know there was a dog next door?
I suspect they will all calm down about each other’s existence in a day or two, but meanwhile the poor pit is barking himself hoarse.
PS. Gordon and I talked about it and we decided it would be best to disclose the breeds of our dogs upfront. While it’s easy to lie and say they are mixed breeds or mutts, neither one of us feels comfortable deceiving prospective landlords. What will be will be. If it takes us longer to find a rental, so be it.